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Ipswich: Alcoholic Daniel Palmer jailed for 40th breach of his Asbo

15:33 10 February 2014

Daniel Palmer

Daniel Palmer

An alcoholic who has breached his anti-social behaviour order (Asbo) 40 times has been jailed for 28 weeks.

Daniel Palmer was given an Asbo in 2007 banning him from being found drunk in a public place and in the intervening years he has regularly breached the order, Ipswich Crown Court heard.

Jailing Palmer for the latest two breaches of the order Recorder Heather Rogers said Palmer had a significant problem with alcohol and described his case as “very sad.”

She said that over the last seven years courts had tried to help him by passing community orders on five occasions which required him to attend alcohol treatment programmes. However Palmer had repeatedly breached the orders and had ended up back in prison.

Palmer, who has lived in the Ipswich area but has no fixed address, admitted two breaches of his Asbo on January 4 and January 6.

Joanathan Taylor, prosecuting said on the first occasion Palmer had been found asleep in a toilet block in Alexandra Park, Ipswich by park rangers. He had been sick and appeared drunk and refused to leave the park when asked to do so by the rangers.

He had become aggressive and threatened to slit the throat of one of the rangers but shortly afterwards apologised and said he didn’t have a knife.

Police were called and Palmer was arrested.

Two days later he was found in a telephone box in Tower Street, Ipswich at 9.45am and appeared to be drunk. A breath test showed he was nearly three times the drink drive limit and he was arrested for being drunk in a public place.

Guy Ayers for Palmer said that as his client was an alcoholic it was hardly surprising that he kept breaching the Asbo by getting drunk.

He said Palmer had a chronic addiction to alcohol and despite efforts by the courts to help him he had been unable to stop drinking.

Mr Ayers said Palmer was determined to break the cycle of offending.

He also urged the court to defer sentence for several months to see if he was as good as his word.

14 comments

  • A homeless drunk ... so how does he get to afford to be an alcoholic? My benefits are being spent on this waster when not in prison & now when he is in prison. May be his family should take more responsibility for him.

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    Concerned of Suffolk

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Strangely that was my first thought, too: where does he get the money from, to support his constant alcohol consumption? And his defending counsel must be joking. Defer sentence to see "if he was as good as his word" - after breaking it 40 times already?! Chronic alcoholics (like all drug addicts) will do anything to get their fix, they have no moral compass, and are physically and psychologically incapable of "breaking the cycle" on their own. A sad case.

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    blue&white

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Mr Palmer will probably get some sort of support in prison, but not the specialist help that he needs. It is in situations such as this, that the need for a 'wet centre' becomes more apparent. It is a shame that Mr Palmer's addiction has led him to prison this time round. It is obviously apparent that he needs to spend at least six months in a decent rehab that works only with alcoholics. I suspect the only 'treatment' he has been offered are 'day rehabs', which whilst good are not sufficient for some; Mr Palmer being a case such as this. Gaining funding to get into a specialist residential rehab takes too long and is an extremely challenging process, with many appointments to be kept beforehand. I bet many of those would have been missed, should that opportunity have arisen for him. Mr Palmer, if you are able to read this; there is help out there and people who do understand. I wish you all the best.

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    Mister Cynical

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Agree with you Andy - You never know he may well be able to turn it around for himself, although the ney sayers might not agree. Hope he does, we'll have to wait and see. :)

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    Charlie's Angel No1

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Alcoholics exist , nothing we can do about it . No Civilisation is perfect .

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    Poppys Dad

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • A homeless drunk ... so how does he get to afford to be an alcoholic? My benefits are being spent on this waster when not in prison & now when he is in prison. May be his family should take more responsibility for him.

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    Concerned of Suffolk

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • A homeless drunk ... so how does he get to afford to be an alcoholic? My benefits are being spent on this waster when not in prison & now when he is in prison. May be his family should take more responsibility for him.

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    Concerned of Suffolk

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • It's costing the tax payer over £800 per week to have this guy in jail. Some people clearly do not want to be helped.

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    Ashley Barrett

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Best place to dry out? Are you joking? At best he will come out addicted to drugs.

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    Citizen

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • If there's ever a case for euthanasia then this would be a strong contender! A waste of space.

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    mr_tall

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • I see mr_tall is part of the holier than thou brigade. He probably doesn't know the first thing about alcoholism yet feels qualified enough to pontificate.

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    Robotix

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • Let's hope the prison service can help the guy by providing support and treatment,he's in the best place to "dry out"....maybe there are also underlying mental health issues that nobody has seen or are aware of,together with possible education could put this chap on an even keel again.....or we can just knock him negatively and not waste our time on him (which seems to be the general consensus)

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    andy cran

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • After 40 chances to get it right I think we've gone past the point of helping him Andy.

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    evilweazel

    Monday, February 10, 2014

  • I agree Mister Cynical. Strange thing is, had he been bidding to be Britain's fattest man,he would've had plenty of help and support on the NHS....

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    Robotix

    Monday, February 10, 2014

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