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Traffic lights will be switched off in Kesgrave to see if congestion at busy A1214 junction improves

11:10 16 October 2015

The A1214 and Ropes Drive roundabout in Kesgrave will have a trial traffic light switch-off next month.

The A1214 and Ropes Drive roundabout in Kesgrave will have a trial traffic light switch-off next month.

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A trial switch-off of traffic lights at one of Kesgrave’s busiest junctions is set to take place next month.

The roundabout at Ropes Drive West, which connects the A1214 with Ropes Drive is a key route between Ipswich and the A12, and regularly sees a build up of traffic at peak times.

From November 12, the lights will be switched off for two weeks, and traffic flow monitored to assess whether any improvements can be made.

As part of the trial, the eastbound slip road for the A14 will be closed to all traffic except cyclists, in an effort to simulate what a future layout could look like if the lights were to be taken out.

Once the trial ends, camera footage will be analysed and recommendations put to Suffolk County Council to decide whether to permanently switch off the lights.

Suffolk county councillor for Kesgrave, Robert Whiting, said: “This is a key junction for those trying to access/exit the Grange Farm estate but also for road users wanting to travel to the east of the county.

“Therefore, it is important that where a sensible idea is put forward which may improve journey times, we should look at it. The timing of the trial is deliberate to make sure the proposed new layout is being tested at a typical time, rather than when traffic would be lighter i.e. school holidays.”

The trial, which has been funded by locality budgets from Suffolk county councillors Robert Whiting and Christopher Hudson, and Kesgrave Town Council, will begin with a one week camera survey of existing traffic from November 3, with temporary signs and lines put in place on November 10.

When the trial ends on November 26, the layout will be returned to its current format.

Councillor Whiting added: “We don’t know how the junction will cope, that’s the purpose of the trial.

“I would ask road users to be patient and remember that it is only for a short period of time. If there is no improvement or queues get longer during the two weeks then I would certainly not be recommending that the changes are made permanent.

“It’s important that people let us know their views during the trial so they can be considered as part of the decision making process.”

The trial follows a similar assessment in 2008 at the Ropes Drive East roundabout, when a trial switch-off of traffic lights found traffic flow improved and the lights permanently abolished the same year.

29 comments

  • The irony of posting complaints about cyclists using the road, for an article about congestion, is lost on some people it would seem!

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    Olden McGroin

    Monday, October 19, 2015

  • blowseyboy Yes i do use park and ride the economics and the stress free ride all add up on the rare times I travel to Ipswich. There will be no chance for anyone once they start the building on Bt's balance sheet improvements at Adastral Park. Traffic lights or no traffic lights. Perhaps this is all a big con so the council can say that they tried all systems and consulted everyone but you will have to put up with streets like inner London. What next a ban on diesel cars etc etc ...?

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    easylec

    Sunday, October 18, 2015

  • Well first turning off street lights then crime rate goes up now turning off traffic lights then accident rate goes up? Nothing ever changes until some one dies. Cyclists believe they have the divine right to the road and are blameless in all accidents.Lets see what happens.

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    JC

    Sunday, October 18, 2015

  • When I lived in kesgrave it was exactly 6 miles from home to work and took 40 minutes. I then moved to Fressingfield, 33 miles home to work. The journey only took me 10 minutes longer, even taking into account that I still had to cross the Norwich Road double roundabout, and cross the Valley Rd Sainsburys lights. Says it all about the Kesgrave infrastructure and traffic flow

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    Sentinel Red

    Saturday, October 17, 2015

  • TERENCE MANNING

    Saturday, October 17, 2015

  • They must be getting bored in County Hall another play scheme for them to chuckle over. This affects people lives, journeys to work, shops, everyday things. I think it's time they all resigned or started earning their money. Transport and travel in Suffolk is a joke

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    Transol

    Saturday, October 17, 2015

  • For this to be a truly valid test for this part of Ipswich the Bell Lane lights need to be turned off as well. Those lights will still cause problems even with these ones turned off as they cause tailbacks to these lights. Without turning the Bell Lane lights off the traffic will still queue back and people will be unable to exit from Ropes Drive. The experiment will then be labelled a failure and validate the SCC obsession with clogging up Ipswich with traffic lights. The reason there are problems in this area of town is that there is very limited access to the Grange Farm estate, how about fulfilling the infrastructure pledges that were made when the estate was started?

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    Esco Fiasco

    Saturday, October 17, 2015

  • At last! Someone has a good idea. Of course there will be no congestion!. And why pay for cameras?. Go and stand there with a clip board. Its a start though. How about doing the same at the Copdock interchange, Bishops hill back hamlet and nacton road maryon road? The later 2 certainly don't need lights. Anyone read about Beverly in West Yorkshire?. They have installed the same traffic light system as Ipswich( and found the on button) and it went wrong causing 76 sets of lights to switch off for 3 days. The result, perfect traffic flow. No congestion in any direction and no accidents! We know it so why can't they see it?

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    spboy

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • No one said was it was a crime to turn right,just an idea to keep the traffic moving and I can't answer for the ones coming the other way!! Most of the time I use the Park and Ride which is excellent.Do you Easylec??

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    blowesyboy

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • I'm sure that they have had these lights turned off before and I believe the results showed that traffic flow DID improve. So now we need to spend money doing the test again? Hmmmmmm. I also agree with previous statements about the Bell Lane lights. Are they not in sync with the roundabout ones? If not that explains why they are so rubbish. Also widen the junction with Dr Watsons Lane so people can turn right without holding up every one back through the lights. Northern Bypass please.

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    Scuzzer

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Ah-ha i think i've solved the riddle of the mysterious A14 eastbound slip road. I think it should say "the eastbound slip road for the A1214 will be closed" and is referring to the road on the left of the picture where the traffic light is green.

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    Ted Maul

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Never understood the need to put traffic lights on a round about, Surely it's one or the other. In most cases round abouts mean traffic doesn't have to stop when there is nothing else coming. Likewise (Valley Road) pedestrian crossings just after a round about, mean traffic backs up onto the round about. The less traffic lights the better. If this works, then maybe Ipswich will follow suit.

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    england1770

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Blowsy boy not really a crime wanting to turn right,, if the traffic in the other lane just gave way it would relieve your problem.Maybe you should try it when coming in the other direction. If everyone gave way instead of just thinking of themselves then there would be no need for any lights or roundabouts we would all be better off. The cyclists that are a nuisance would be even more of a nuisance if they used the cars that most have chosen to leave at home, why not look at them as a car space saved instead of being a single occupant car driver.

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    easylec

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • The lights that need to be turned off are those at the end of Bell Lane. Dobbs Lane which carries a similar amount of traffic does not have lights. Why, if they are so necessary everywhere else. A turning lane into Dr Watson's Lane also needs to be provided by narrowing the path and verge but councillors seem to have the idea that providing a carriageway box for the telephony cables isn't possible, wrongly, which is why this hasn't happened. Let's be clear. A Kesgrave bypass was to be provided as a condition of building Grange Farm but was stopped by the same people that prevent progress on the northern bypass. Money that developers contributed for this was then wasted by SCC on multiple sets of lights. Don't forget the original lights provided on the two roundabouts were initially replaced before the ones at Ropes Drive East were then switched off the removed and then another new set was installed to provide a pedestrian and crossing. Does anyone know how much money was spent on these failed schemes?

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    amsterdam81

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Come on,lets face it,the junction after the Bell lights has always been bad,the twit who designed it,most likely doesn't even drive!! While we are on about the bell junction as well,going towards Ipswich and after the lights the road named Dr Watsons Lane could that be made a No Entry from the 1214? you crawl along to the Bell,the lights change we all move off, then someone wants to turn right and what happens? yep,we are all held up and the lights change!!

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    blowesyboy

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • What's most surprising about this story is that they actually have said roundabout in the pic.

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    Tedbundy

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Not sure about the headline - I don't think we want to see the congestion improved, we need it to be reduced :) In the mornings, there'll still be some tailbacks towards Ipswich on both Ropes Drive & the Main Road, because of the Bell Lane lights. Congestion will continue to be a problem simply because of the volume of vehicles.

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    Dave Love

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • The cyclists that don't use the cycle path but use the road instead are nuisances.There are may bollards along that 1214 a bus can't get past them or for that matter can a lorry.Use the cycle path,saying that a fair few people do,it's just the Bradley Wiggens types that don't,and I've seen them go along the road 2 abreast!!!

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    blowesyboy

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Ipswich Man...... yes agree there is a cyclist route but have you used it trying to avoid cars coming out of their driveways and dogs on loooooong leads? two work colleagues have had broken limbs this year alone due to this which is why we cyclists use the road plus there is a 12 mph limit on these tracks! As per highway code the highway is for ALL transport methods so guess its all about respect for others using the roads which you seem not to have? I too drive that route AND cycle so can appreciate both means of transport so maybe try cycling then you may find out.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Does this mean that all traffic wanting to turn right at the police headquarterspark and ride roundabout, will be forced down Dobbs lane or bell lane instead? If so this is crazy. If not, what does the closure of the A12 slip lane mean?

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    superpatchy66

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • I consider myself very familiar with this junction but you've got a bit muddled with the the eastbound slip road for the A14!

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    Tony G

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • The fact is that turning off the lights will improve things for Grange Farm residents at the expense of everyone else ! There are too few exits off GF and that is the real problem . No amount of fiddling will solve the problem , it is the volume of traffic that is the real issue .

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    Poppys Dad

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Superb. Confused with cyclists. There is a dedicated cycle lane all the way along main road. Its shared with the pedestrians wider paths, also a tunnel under ropes drive so cyclists dont have to use the road. Suffolk CouncilKesgrave Council must of forgot they installed it.

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    Ipswich Man

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Amazing to reflect that it's over a decade since the lights were turned off at the other Ropes Drive roundabout, greatly improving traffic flow there. And it's taken THAT LONG for the powers that be to admit that it was successful and they should do the same at the other roundabout. I wonder how many thousands of hours of people's time has been wasted in the meantime, not to mention all the extra CO2 belched out by vehicles waiting unnecessarily and cost to businesses of having their vehicles stuck there. The sheer pig-headedness of Suffolk County Highways is amazing.

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    beerlover

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • These lights were put there so cars could get out of Ropes drive during the rush hour. It will be interesting to see if the mile long queue will reappears

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    zaax

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • "As part of the trial, the eastbound slip road for the A14 will be closed to all traffic except cyclists" Which slip road? which junction? The A14 is nowhere near this roundabout.

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    Ted Maul

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Two sets of traffic lights on the same stretch of road installed VERY expensively. One set already removed and perhaps the next ones to go soon. What a shocking waste of money; planners are there to plan FORWARD. Another REALLY shocking waste of money is the removal of the roundabout at the bottom of Civic Drive; I cannot see it being re-installed as there would be too great a loss of face. Next experiment should be to turn off traffic lights after the evening rush hour so that cars are not left waiting at red lights for no reason.

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    Johnthebap

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • If it is successful they will they try this in other areas ...namely Ipswich .

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    deeber

    Friday, October 16, 2015

  • Right everyone, let's take advantage of this. Drive sensibly and show the powers that be that we don't need traffic lights to dictate our lives!! Power to the people!

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    Fill-a-stein

    Friday, October 16, 2015

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