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We need more police officers on our streets – Kesgrave councillors make urgent plea after rise in anti-social behaviour

13:35 17 November 2014

Charles Rayworth, of the Kesgrave Town Council, said the town expects a much greater police presence.

Charles Rayworth, of the Kesgrave Town Council, said the town expects a much greater police presence.

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Suffolk police has been slammed by Kesgrave councillors for the lack of policing in the town following a spate of anti-social behaviour.

Kesgrave Town Council held an impromptu public meeting following a string of complaints from residents in the Cedarwood area about anti-social behaviour and the lack of provision for young people.

There have been complaints since May regarding misuse of the teen shelter near Wilkinson Drive, including the noise in the evenings, underage smoking and drinking, and unsafe use of mopeds and motorbikes close to Cedarwood Primary School, as well as use of the shelter by those aged 17 and above which it was not allocated for.

Council members are today demanding a greater level of policing to help combat the problem.

Charles Rayworth from Kesgrave Town Council, said: “I think we need to make clear that we expect a much greater police presence.”

Last month, the Kesgrave and District Safer Neighbourhood Team (SNT) were forced to relocate after an electrical fire at their Ropes Drive office left them unable to use it for a period of six to eight weeks, and are currently operating from Woodbridge Police Station.

Sally Ogden, chair of Kesgrave Town Council, added: “We wrote to them (Suffolk police) last week saying we were not happy. For them to just completely decamp to Woodbridge I find totally unacceptable.”

“We wrote to them on the lack of policing, and that we are down on the numbers we are entitled to. We are down one PCSO, and presumably there is a notice period.”

Mrs Ogden did make it clear that senior figures in the police force had agreed to meet councillors next week to address the problem.

She added: “The police inspector has agreed to come out next week, but the level of policing in a town of nearly 15,000 people is unacceptable.”

Sargeant Andrew Buck from Suffolk police, said: “The Kesgrave and District Safer Neighbourhood Team are continuing to police the area as they did before the fire, and we are also utilising the mobile police station, and most days this will be located outside the SNT office of in the Tesco car park.

“We have also put in place an engagement plan to ensure we continue to work closely with the local community, and plans are also being put in place to hold regular surgery sessions with residents.

“It is business as usual, and there has not been a reduction in patrols or staffing as a result of the fire.”

Plans by Suffolk police for tougher enforcement on the proper use of the teen shelter have been welcomed, although details are yet to be finalised.

Among suggestions made in last week’s meeting, which was held at the Millennium Jubilee Hall, Millennium Way, to combat the anti-social behaviour problem were fencing the shelter, key fob access in which users would have to sign an agreement with the council to use it responsibly, leaving street lighting off, moving the shelter to another location, or creating an additional space for people to use.

Taking a vote after public consultation, a proposal to erect fencing and two gates around the shelter, providing it was legally safe to do so, were unanimously voted in favour of, while a proposal to leave lights off until a fence is in place, if it is possible to do so, were voted for with a majority of 10 to two.

An update on progress has been planned for January’s council meeting.

26 comments

  • Kesgrave one of the largest towns in Suffolk ! You really have no idea about what goes on Matthew . Significant problems ? Hardly much compared with many other areas . Kesgrave has enough staff , they are hardly going to get any more with the cuts being made across the Police .

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    Poppys Dad

    Sunday, November 23, 2014

  • I would agree with Derrick Fairbrother that the policing team in Kesgrave don't do an inherently bad job, but the wider Suffolk Constabulary and further down the line, the Government, are failing the people of Kesgrave. Kesgrave is one of the largest towns in Suffolk with a significant population making it larger than that of the market town of Woodbridge. As a large town Kesgrave needs and deserves a larger police presence than it currently has, particularly as there are currently significant problems surrounding anti-social behaviour, concerns being raised by local residents with regards to speeding (particularly along Ropes Drive, the Main RoadA1214, Bell Lane and Penzance Road, as well as what appears to be (certainly in recent weeks) a large number of vehicle related crimes, including theft from motor vehicles. Given all of this why would the police decide to relocate the SNT into Woodbridge (even if it is temporary)? Why not the Suffolk Constabulary HQ in Martlesham? This would make logical sense since it is within the SNT area, within an area of current priority as a result of anti-social behaviour around both Martlesham and Kesgrave and would enable easy public access for locals, which Woodbridge Police Station does not give the area since it is not central to the town and not even on a bus route from the area. The residents of Kesgrave and Martlesham deserve answers.

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    Matthew_Percy

    Thursday, November 20, 2014

  • Poppy's Dad, at last we agree. It is precisely because I know how things are now that I put keyboard to screen. I am deeply saddened for the public who have lost out and today's constables who have been indoctrinated by those who are not leaders but PC, pseudo social workers who probably have never been in a witness box.

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    dinosaur detective

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Shows how little DD knows about how it works now . Policing is not like it was and that is a failure of society and the poor managers we now have who are only in it for themselves . I too have spent 30 years as a Police Officer . Way too much of the modern day police officer's time is spent not doing core policing roles that were as major part of a previous era . SNT's do what they can but people really demand too much of a modern police service . Our senior staff need to tell society that we will not do certain things anymore . Anyway DD we can have different opinions can't we ? We are i am sure after the same thing ?

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    Poppys Dad

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Poppy's Dad, I am proud of my Dinosaur reference. SNT's would be great if they did what was said on the tin. I've lived in (old) Kesgrave 14 years, seen a PCSO on patrol once. Dinosaurs like me spoke to all and sundry, the good, bad and evil. hence a detection rate of around 40 per cent. At least we attended every crime within an hour and did a proper investigation. With 10 Crown Court commendations I must have been doing something right! What's your pedigree?

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    dinosaur detective

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Amsterdam81, when you refer to people rubbishing Kesgrave I take it you are talking about the people that built it?

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    Tamara Knight

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • So what are SNT's all about then DD if they don't communicate with the public ? But then i think the first part of your user name is quite relevant on this subject .

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    Poppys Dad

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Poppys Dad, please remove your rose tinted specs. Mr Fisk in spot on. If the Pledge does not exist anymore why weren't the public told? Another Police College idea that has failed. The problem is the credibility of so called leaders. The Police have changed into a politically correct, arrogant entity that is rarely visible totally unable or unwilling to communicate with the community.

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    dinosaur detective

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Police being slagged off , how novel ! People only know what they are told about the Police by the media . Media articles sensationalise - simple . Suffolk Police has never been poor , they just changed the way in which their performance was calculated ..... Also there is not a policing plede anymore , so why would the quote it !

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    Poppys Dad

    Tuesday, November 18, 2014

  • Since the 1st April 1967 Ipswich has been policed by the Suffolk Constabulary. For the next 40 years the force was considered one of the best in the country. The successful multiple murder enquiry of five prostitutes in 2006 confirmed the force was worthy of its reputation. Three years later in October 2009 the force was graded by the HM Chief Inspector of Constabulary on ten points of the Policing Pledge, 8 were graded as fair and 2 as poor. The overall grade was ‘Poor’ and Suffolk jointly with Cumbria was considered the worst force in the country. In 2010 Suffolk Constabulary was re-graded as fair but without any indication that it was other than still the worst force. The Chief constable had the temerity to congratulate the force on this reassessment as if it was a great achievement. Since then nothing has been heard of the Policing Pledge in Suffolk so I can only assume it has finished up in the trash can and Suffolk is still the worst force in the country

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    David T Fisk

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Comments on this story seem to be subject to the unpublished moderation rules which means it is not worth the effort of talking against those who choose to rubbish Kesgrave.

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    amsterdam81

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Short sighted planning indeed, but what will the snobs of Kesgrave think when their precious 'village' house prices tumble? Part of me sympathises, part of me chuckles. Not an IBC problem, they just use our facilities. I hope it Rushmere next!

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    Mike Derruki

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • I know someone unfortunate enough to live there and they say most of the residents know who the local problem kids are with their motorbike riding, noise and trouble, but of course if you try and do anything you just open yourself up to trouble from the kids and, sometimes, their families. The parents don't seem to have any control over their kids.

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    Esco Fiasco

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Living close to but not in sight of the teen shelter I can confirm that the problems this past summer have been the worst yet. The majority of the problem children are attending on mopeds from outside of Kesgrave. They use connecting roads at speed and this is causing a lot of nuisance and most importantly danger to all the young children. Kesgrave Town Council need to get rid of it

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    commonsense

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Grange Farm has turned into a cross between Desperate Housewife's and a Concrete Jungle in the past 5 years. Parking is non existent, road infrastructure is appalling and for a Town there is nothing to do, no high street, no shops bar a Tesco and stupendously high property prices. Glad I moved out in 98, I don't get the obsession with the place.

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    Tedbundy

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Where are all the PCSO's???

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    RC

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • It is pretty obvious if you build a teen shelter that kids will hang around at night smoking and generally being noisy. The adults that are complaining probaly did it themselves when they were young but it was generally bus shelters in those days. Didn't it cost £100,000 or some ridiculous figure when it was built. Far better to have spent the money on a youth club it generally kept us out of trouble and off the streets. Also when did Kesgrave become a town I thought it was part of Ipswich obviously the post code snobbery does not exempt you from anti-social behaviour.

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    royg

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • My dealings with the Kesgrave team have found them to be a well led and dedicated bunch. Perhaps some of this problem could be laid where it really belongs - with the inadequate parenting of those involved. Bashing the Police in times of such unprecedented cuts is just cheap politics for votes.

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    Dunnicking

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Lots of young families moved into a sea of small houses at the same time to get a place at a nice new school. Now those kids are all starting to grow up together. There's nothing for them to do and nowhere to park all the cars they will soon be buying. Once again everyone was thinking of the next 5 years rather than the next 50 when they built it.

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    Tamara Knight

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Theresa May MP stood at The Dispatch Box in The House of Commons and said "There will be NO loss of Front Line Police Officers", yet we in Suffolk have been told we are to lose up to 80 Front Line Police Officers !, you just cannot believe a word that a Tory politician says !

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    freedomf

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Presumably these teenagers come from the area? Surely the installation of CCTV in the shelter, with the footage being shared with the local school will soon identify the offending young people and they can be dealt with appropriately. Teenagers are not an alien species, for the most part if you establish what, when why and who they can be brought back into line

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    Sentinel Red

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Derrick you seem to be defending the police which seems odd, as a politician you should look at the situation as a spokesman of the public. Maybe you have other connections to the police but you have no clue to the main problem which is No Police walking the street. Your council many years ago put a surcharge of 5 pound on the parish rates so the so called police service could have mountain bikes to get about, where did they go, the blue tops who you see once in ten years walking down a street are a socialist waste of money (how many arrests have managed None is the answer) The police shop caught fire an accident maybe but what does that say about the service) get real the Police service is of a very poor standard the worst it's ever been and getting even poorer, maybe to much police time and money is spent on terrorism and illegals not enough on local policing. Get rid of those blue tops they are a drain on proper cops in more than one way, publish how many cops are working at any time and what they are doing, open up this secret part of our society so we can sort the problem because it's seems certain you Can't.

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    a west

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Is it really neccessary to have an 'Engagement Plan' to ensure engagement with the Community?! Typical management gobledigook . Whatever happened to just speaking to people, an art lost by the Police in the 1970's

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    dinosaur detective

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • I doubt the majority of people living near this problem are aware the problem exists. The people who live near the teen shelter, which was installed at the time their houses were built, have objected from the outset. Of the 15,000 people in Kesgrave, how many are complaining? On the other hand Kesgrave council contribute directly to the police budget and therefore reasonably expect a say in what the police deliver. Are the police truely accountable any more and if so to who?

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    amsterdam81

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • Following on from my previous comment I didn't mention that I am a Kesgrave Town Councillor and I certainly don't won't to knock our local police team I just want the Town Council to put action to its promises or is knocking the police the way some Town Councillor s deal with the problems not just in the Cedarwood Green area but in Kesgrave as a whole

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    derrick

    Monday, November 17, 2014

  • This is not a true reflection on the problems with Cedarwood Green these go back to at least November 2013 and after holding public meetings the Town Council have done nothing even ignoring a proposal by the police along the way The police do the best that resources allow them to ,but with cuts to police budgets by central government this is becoming harder What the Town Council needs to do is deliver on its promises A vote was taken around four months ago to fence this area in yet nothing happened Let's stop. Knocking the police and sort out cedarwood green do residents can have a quality of life they deserve

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    derrick

    Monday, November 17, 2014

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