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Accused tells of fears for his life

PUBLISHED: 15:37 27 July 2001 | UPDATED: 10:23 03 March 2010

ONE of two men accused of the murder of a young Chinese man, was close to tears as he told how he is "incredibly scared" of his co-defendant and feared that he would be shot dead if he 'grassed him up'.

ONE of two men accused of the murder of a young Chinese man, was today close to tears when he told how he is "incredibly scared" of his co-defendant and feared that he would be shot dead if he 'grassed him up'.

Speaking at Norwich Crown Court today, Steven Lowe, 24, of Spring Road, Ipswich, said that his co-defendant, Lewis Carroll, 31, of Crocus Close, Ipswich, had a reputation in the town as "a hard bastard."

Being questioned by John Caudle for the prosecution, Lowe said that he had first learned of Carroll's reputation around two years ago when Carroll, working as a door supervisor at Liquid nightclub, had hit him outside the club in what he called an unprovoked attack.

Both men deny murdering of Phil Hoi Phat Lui, 24, who was attacked both inside and outside Kartouche nightclub on August 14.

Toby Woods, 24, of Cosmeston Street, Cardiff, has denied a charge of violent disorder.

After telling of the incident outside Liquid nightclub, Mr Caudle asked Lowe, "You are afraid of Mr Carroll, aren't you?"

Lowe, close to tears, said "Yes I am."

He added, "I thought I would get shot if I grassed him up. I know what he is like and in the past it has happened to friends of mine that if you grass him up, you get done."

Lowe admitted that he continually felt threatened by Carroll and asked not to be in the same prison, saying, "I just didn't want to see him. I was incredibly scared."

Lowe remained in prison in Norwich from September to February while Carroll went to Chelmsford prison. Sitting in the dock together, they are separated by four Group Four security personnel, with Lowe also sitting next to Woods.

The court has previously heard how a Group Four officer, named as Mr Roberts, reported that when the pair appeared at Norwich Crown Court for a preliminary hearing, Carroll made repeated threats to Lowe, even using hand gestures to intimate that Lowe faced a potential attack. Carroll has dismissed this as "a joke".

Mr Caudle said, "Does this seem like a joke to you?" to which Lowe replied, "No, it scares me."

Carroll is thought to have moved his finger across his neck intimating that Lowe would get his throat cut and is also alleged to have said that he would bite Lowe's nose off. Carroll is accused of biting Mr Lui's nose during the attack.

The court also heard today how in an original statement Lowe did not mention Carroll's name.

Asked by Mr Caudle why he did this, Lowe replied, "I was scared. I felt threatened. People were saying things to me, I was being threatened all the time. There was no way I could do it."

The trial will continue on Monday.

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